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CLIMB THE LADDER
01.28.2010

This question came from a struggling portrait photographer in Ann Arbor, MI.

My customers mostly buy small prints, mainly 5x7 and 4x6. I'm having a hard time getting them to buy 8x10s.  What am I doing wrong?

When I got this question I already knew the answer. I asked the tog what she charged and her answer confirmed my suspicions:  $50 for 8x10,  $25 for 5x7 and $15 for 4x6.

The reason this tog is struggling is because her print pricing is designed to sell small prints!  Why spend $50 for an 8x10 when you can spend the same amount and get two 5x7s?

In marketing there's a term we call "climbing the ladder".  To sell bigger, you've got to make your clients climb the ladder. If the ladder is too steep, they won't climb.

This means that the larger print should be just a little bit more expensive than the smaller print, making the smaller print seem like not such a good deal (the corollary being that the larger print seems like a great deal).

So if you charge $50 for an 8x10, try charging something like $40 for a 5x7 and $30 for a 4x6. Why buy a 4x6 if a 5x7 is just a bit more? And while you're at it, why not just spend $10 more and get the 8x10?  That's what "climbing the ladder" is all about.

I take this concept a step further with my own pricing. I make the price differential between my 5x7 and 8x10 really small. How small?  Try zero!

I simply charge one flat price for any size print 8x10 or smaller.  My clients choose the size based on their needs, not based on price. In other words, I never make anything less than my full 8x10 price. Problem solved.

We'll be discussing this and many more sales, marketing and pricing topics at my February 27 "Building a Profitable Portrait Business" workshop in Seattle.

 

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Jesse Starr: As always, a great post.  I was wondering if you would post about your sales process in terms of image presentation and suggesting products for the B+G.  I currently do not have a studio so I do all my meetings either at the couples homes or coffee shops.  Any ideas for this would be greatly appreciated. If you wrote an E-Book on the subject, I would gladly buy it. :) (02/17/10, 02:04)     
Jesse: Thanks for another great post! On the subject of sales: I do not currently have a studio so I do my sales sessions at the home of the client usually. Do you have any tips for handling this situation and maximizing sales? If you ever wrote an ebook on sales techniques, I would buy it in a heartbeat.  (02/11/10, 04:00)     
Maree: I don´t sell 4x6 but I have my 5x7´s and 8x10´s exactly the same price too! Simpler all round for the exact reasons you´ve outlined. (02/05/10, 01:59)     
Nathan Ciurzynski: Great info! Thank you. (02/04/10, 10:07)     
Scott Roeben: Another great post. Thanks, as always, for the insights. (02/01/10, 01:06)     
Laurence Kim: @Rich, this post is about portrait pricing. Wedding pricing is another thing entirely. For weddings, I don\\\´t even do small prints, I just encourage my clients to make their own small prints using their included. DVD.  (01/30/10, 12:50)     
Rich: Just another point of view, we got 8x10 photos included in our wedding package, but they are sitting in a box somewhere because we don\´t want huge pictures of ourselves hanging up in the apartment.  So some people might just not want large prints, which means of course the pricing should be more attractive, as you mention.   (01/29/10, 11:23)     
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CUTE PICTURE = OPEN WALLET
12.08.2009

I filed this post under the "strictly business" category rather than the "kids and families" category because it's about making the sale.

Parents buy images because they love their kids. They want to see clean, clear images of their cute, happy and smiling kids.  

So put away that tilt/shift lens.

Leave your 24mm at home.

Don't even think about using that fancy action you're so in love with - you know, the one that uses the high-pass filter and turns people orange.

Stop trying to put vacant, pouty facial expressions on them.  

Don't tilt your camera.

Don't cut off their heads at the neck like you sometimes do with your brides and grooms.

Stop thinking "cool". Stop thinking "cutting edge". Start thinking "cute".

If you want to make good money on child portraiture, then take clean, clear images of happy kids. Even better, take pictures of siblings happy together. Parents are used to their kids fighting. A picture of their kids loving each other will bring tears to their eyes and have them reaching for their wallets. If you're not a parent yourself, then you probably don't understand this - but just trust me on it.

To do this you've got to be engaging. Be fun. Be funny. Shoot fast. Capturing happy kids is much more important than having the perfect light or perfect background.  

Is there a market for blurry b&w images of the backs of kids' heads looking out the window taken with a 45mm tilt/shift? Yes, maybe one set of parents out of a thousand. If you want to target that market then be my guest.  

Let's review.  telephoto lens + happy kids + clean processing = nice sale

 

 

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Laurence Kim: @michael: I\\\´m not advocating \\\"traditional\\\" vs modern. You can take very cute images in a lifestyle fashion. I wouldn\\\´t be so quick to dismiss shooting outdoors, even if it\\\´s cold. Why not bundle the kid up and shoot outside in your normal style? If you shoot in the studio, it doesn\\\´t have to be Olan Mills boring either. Try shooting high key and don\\\´t over pose the kid - engage her and make her laugh.  (12/11/09, 09:40)     
michael: I guess you\´re right. I never photographed children except from my own daughter and now a couple with a 1.5 years old son wants me to do some portraits of their son. Weather is grey and cold so it\´ll have to be indoors. They chose me because I \"take untraditional pics\" as they say. They saw a wedding-album I did. So now I\´m in trouble. They expect something \"untraditional\" from me and your true words kind of state the opposite. I have a studio as well as lots of speedlights. It may be too stiff in the studio. Please help me. Flash vs. available light? Untraditional yet still in accordance with your post? Thanks in advance. You can see some pics I did of my own daughter: http://michaelbennati.dk/isabellacollage/ I hope for a little advice here. http://michaelbennati.dk/isabellacollage/ (12/11/09, 09:29)     
Dennis Bullock: Well said Laurence! (12/09/09, 05:48)     
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YOUR COMPETITION
11.24.2009

....is getting better.

Here is a quick scan of Theresa's official school photo. I like it, so I bought a few prints. This is not your typical flat lighting on a mottled blue canvas backdrop. I can even see shadows/highlights on her face.  Even the camera position is correct for a headshot - level with the nose.

Not bad for school photography, which is generally recognized to be at the bottom of the photography food chain.

What's going on here?  Photography is hot!

Back in the stone age (the 1990's) most people I knew didn't even own a camera. When they did take pictures (which was rare) they bought a disposable cardboard camera from the drug store.

In this first decade of the 21st century, everyone has a digital camera. Now with millions of people taking pictures, it's inevitable that many of them have gotten serious. Combine this with the internet and sites like Flickr and you've got an explosion. Do you know how many DSLRs I see at a typical wedding? Guests with 1 -Series cameras?

There are many sites (like the one you're reading now) where you can find lots of information to help improve your photography. Lots of forums and "groups".  Joe McNally's "Hot Shoe Diaries" was an Amazon best seller. Crazy.

The other day I was cruising through the "creative commons" area of Flickr looking for examples of bad portrait photography to use on an instructional blog post. You know what?  It wasn't easy!  Most of the images looked pretty darn good.

Chase Jarvis puts together a photography get-together and hundreds of photographers - most of them amateurs - show up.  

What does all of this mean?

It means that your competition - both professional and amateur - is getting both more numerous and better. Here in Seattle there's probably two new photography businesses opening up every single day. That's not an exaggeration.

Everything else is easier too. Equipment is better. Software is better. Instruction is better. You can buy a very attractive, clean and modern template website for $100. Everyone's using the same actions. New photographers (many of whom with backgrounds in the high tech industry) who know SEO get their websites on the front page of Google within a year of opening their business.

Nikon's entry-level dslr - the $700 D5000 - has better image quality than it's top-of-the-line $5,000 professional dslr from just 2 years ago (Nikon D2x).  I kid you not.

 

Better, better, better.

 

So what are you going to do about it?

You can do the same thing you've always done.  Or you can step up your game!  You've got to work on your craft.  

  • buy a new piece of gear and learn how to use it - see if it makes you change the way you take pictures
  • attend a few workshops (a self-serving piece of advice for sure, but that doesn't make it less valuable). learn first hand how someone else does things.
  • work on your marketing
  • grab a few models from ModelMayhem and set up some shoots to try out new ideas/techniques
  • try this one:  read your camera's manual from cover to cover
  • never used off-camera flash before?  learn how to use it!
  • use off-camera flash all the time?  put your strobes away for a month and learn how to creatively use natural light.
  • waste too much time reading photography forums and surfing the net?  go for a week without it. disconnect your computer from the modem. allow yourself 1/2 hour every day to respond to emails and that's it.
  • is that 85mm glued to your camera body? grab a 24mm and shoot with that for a month.
  • hate tilt/shift? great. go rent one for a weekend and take 3,000 frames with it.
  • you don't like asking for the order?  try the assumptive close at your next sales session "well Mrs. Jones, it looks like since you like at least 30 images from your portrait session we're going to have to go with an album".
  • grab some friends and use a point-n-shoot for a few portrait sessions. it will force you to work a  LOT harder to get professional looking images.  once you go back to your dslr your images will have improved.
  • you suck at posing? great.  set up 10 sessions over the next 2 months where you pose every single shot.


 

I think you get the idea. Now just go do it!

 

 

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zackn9ne: ok. i like the part about disconnecting frm the net for a week. i anticipate i will be at the library reading up on photography/ looking trhough glamour magazines. While not shooting. I guess this is what you have in mind for us. (03/07/10, 02:47)     
Colleen Donovan: This is an awesome post!  I printed it out and taped it over my computer screen. :) I need to puuuuuush myself.  Nobody wants a stale photographer!  Thanks for the tips... (11/30/09, 12:34)     
Joe: Yep.  Lifetouch does a good job with my daughter´s pictures, too.  I picked the same background this last time - I think it was called Night Life - and it´s my favorite shot so far. (11/25/09, 12:49)     
Matt: Another great post.  I´m one of those that got into photography when digital became affordable. My £50 digital point-and-shoot became a £100 digital camera, and that became a £200 digital ´bridge´ camera which then became a Canon 30D. Now I own 3 bodies and do weddings, portraits, etc... But I´m finding more and more guests turning up at weddings with better kit than me!  The market for DSLRs has exploded, with professional photography becoming simpler and easier. I try to try something new each week, and I love a few of your suggestions.  I do like the fact that more and more people are getting into photography, it just means that we (as pros or semi-pros) have to step it up, think outside the box and produce great imagery that others cannot.  This school-photographer seems to have done just that - it´s a stunning portrait, even more so when you think it´s a ´school´ photo - which historically have been boring and stuffy! (11/25/09, 10:09)     
JOEL: Wow.. That is some of the best advise i´ve read about in a long time. Thank you. (11/25/09, 09:33)     
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QUESTION OF THE WEEK
09.22.2009

This week's question comes from Jesse Starr, a Denver based people and sports photographer:

"Now that friends are aware of my abilities, they are asking me to
do free photography for them.  I am wondering how to explain
to them that I can't give away something that costs me
time and money to do. And they don't just want me to take
snapshots with a point and shoot, they expect me to use
my full lighting setup!  Any advice?"

It's astounding to me how so many people view photography as something they are entitled to for free. Would you go to a friend who owned a restaurant and ask for $1,500 worth of free meals?  The nerve!!

Okay, so how do you handle these "friends"?

Let's say it takes you, on average, 5 hours of total work to complete one photo shoot. That includes exchanging phone calls/emails, drive time, shoot time, downloading files, color correcting, editing, etc.

Offer an exchange of services: your photography for their services.  For example, if your friend is a web designer, great!  Your blog needs tweaking.  Offer a fee photo shoot in exchange for 5 hours of work on your blog.  If they're an attorney, then 5 hours of legal work. They can do yard work, wash windows, etc. You get the idea.

Here's what you say:

"Gee Sally, I'd love to do a photo shoot for you, but there's no way I can do 5 hours worth of work for free without going bankrupt!  How about we exchange services? I'll do a family shoot for you in exchange for your help at my office for 5 hours?  I'm doing some direct mail and really need help addressing and stuffing envelopes."

This strategy accomplishes several things:

  • It will discourage them from asking for free sessions in the future.
  • It will make them realize what jerks they were for asking in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if they withdrew the request and offered to pay your normal rates.
  • Barter isn't a bad thing!  I hate pulling weeds - I'd gladly exchange a photo session in return for weed pulling.
  • If they get indignant at your offer and turn away in a huff, GREAT!  You've just freed yourself from wasting time on an unhealthy relationship with a "friend" who just revealed themselves as nothing more than a blood-sucking leech.

Just remember that YOUR time is just as valuable as THEIR time.  If your "friend" is willing to ask for free services from you but not willing to provide free services in return, were they truly a friend?

 

 

 

 


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AdamR: Well said. I get requests for freebies all the time - if the offers aren´t reciprocated I"ll politely decline (11/26/09, 01:42)     
Dominik: Hello Laurence, thank you very much for that awesome post and excuse my bad english please ;-) Since i tried to become a professionel photographer (i don\´t accomplished it yet) i had exactly that problem you wrote about. In the future i would handle the problem as you give the advice. Either they should pay the price or work for me/do me a favor :-D Thanks for being my photographic hero and keep on posting such cool tutorials  :-) Greetings from germany Dominik (10/16/09, 02:57)     
Kev: well...if you are not happy doing it for free and for the fun of it...then by all means reject that offer... sometimes you can´t find free models as well who´s willing to spend time to model your shoot so can you say that models are not free as well cause they wasted 5 hrs and also make up and yada yada? ;) sometimes when you give, you don´t have to expect a return as well... is that what´s friends are for? giving with a condition?  (10/09/09, 10:48)     
Florida Wedding: First of all i have to say: You have a wonderful blog with lots of very useful information for photographers. I like your explains and especially your photography. I am looking forward to hear loads more.  (10/09/09, 08:47)     
Jay: When you are passionate about your job, some of your friends see it more like a "hobby" than a real job, even if paying the mortgage depends from it. That´s why they continuously ask for "favors"... after all you love it doing it, right? It actually happens a lot to us web developers and IT professionals too. Can´t remember how many computers I have fixed over the years for free. (09/30/09, 01:16)     
Anna: Very well said. Love reading your blog. (09/29/09, 07:54)     
Cindy Lee Photography: Wonderful words of wisdom!  I love your blog!!! (09/28/09, 11:43)     
Ingrid: Well said.  If we calculated the worth of our equipment alone, let alone the time we spend (as you mentioned),it would cost them a lot more than what we charge to get their shots.   On a seperate note, thank you for sharing all the information you do, you give very generously. (09/28/09, 02:14)     
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ABOUT THIS BLOG
10.13.2008

Since I started this blog in February 2008 I've been humbled by the response - over 206,000 visitors so far!

Thanks for all the emails, too!  Many of you have asked me why I do this - posting lots of shooting notes, tutorials and gear reviews.  Well, I mainly do it because I enjoy it - I enjoy posting, and I like to help other photographers, especially those just getting started.

However, it does take quite a bit of time to maintain the blog and create new content - time that I can't really afford to take away from running my business. So I'm asking your help in supporting this blog - I'd love to keep it going for the foreseeable future.

How can you help?  It's easy - any time you need to buy photographic equipment (or in the case of Amazon, anything at all), please shop at one of my sponsors by directly clicking on one of the tiles above. It won't cost you a single penny more to shop that way, yet I'll receive a small commission that will allow me to spend time working on new content.

And with Amazon, Adorama and B&H you're dealing with the best quality vendors in the business. I get all of my stuff from one of these online stores. If you find an internet deal that's too good to be true, it is! Stick with one of these reliable vendors and you won't get burned.

Thanks again, and keep those shooting/lighting/post-processing questions coming!

 

 


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Paulina: Love your blog! I just read it again and again all over! Such a wanerfull advices! Thans a lot for sharnig! (06/17/10, 03:09)     
Tina: Absolutely. I am getting ready to buy two new lenses and a calibration kit from B&H. I´ll be happy to purchase them through your site. (06/01/10, 08:10)     
Bob England: Laurence, I found your site while doing some research on the Panasonic LX3. I consider myself an advanced amateur with a Canon 5D (with a wide gamut of lenses)and a Canon G10. After seeing your work I consider myself a beginner! I love your photo\´s and write-ups. Very inspiring. Thanks for taking the time to add details to the photo\´s on your blog. Bob (11/23/08, 10:08)     
Bliss: What a pity I did not find your blog a fortnight ago when I placed an order at ADorama. Anyway I´ll keep that in mind for future purchase, I promise. Thanks for everything. (10/28/08, 01:19)     
JH: Thanks for making such a useful comparison, real-life examples. The differences in color were interesting. Your examples motivate to try out b&w photography. Never had any interest in this until the LX3. (10/27/08, 02:22)     
Saturb: count me in.. next purchase will be through this links. also you may want to put in a paypal link so that people can donate to keep your site up... just a suggestion.. thanks again for sharing your knowledge! (10/17/08, 07:47)     
jahangir Behzadpour: Hi Laurence , Thanks again for all you are doing here for us . For sure my next purches would be from one of those most trusted store . I am not a reach man but if there is any other way to help to keep your web log up , Please let us know . Many thanks , Jahangir Ottawa -Canada (10/17/08, 07:27)     
Nattnee: Hi Laurence, you know I love your site. Please keep it up and thank you so much for sharing your passion and knowledge with all of us. I´ll be sure to click one of those buttons when I need to in the future. (10/16/08, 01:47)     
Nattnee: Hi Laurence, you know I love your site. Please keep it up and thank you so much for sharing your passion and knowledge with all of us. I´ll be sure to click one of those buttons when I need to in the future. (10/16/08, 01:47)     
Marco: Hi Laurence. I love reading all your posts because it´s so educational and fun for me as a photographer who is just starting out. I just bought the Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 lens from Amazon before you made this post, but in the future I´ll be sure to click through here before getting anything in the future. Thanks for all your hard work! (10/16/08, 01:13)     
Jason Lee: Hi Lawrence, Keep up the awesome work! I always appreciate and look forward to your blog posts. Cheers, Jason (10/16/08, 09:02)     
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